<uboy> but we dont need to be too reductive <even> gees <uboy> hello again <uboy> i was saying... <even> hello? <uboy> hello <even> hmmm <uboy> while it may all seems straight forward to us, i think we actually have so much going on that others may feel confused <uboy> about our intention <uboy> which is fine <even> ok <even> true but we need to be happy too <uboy> right, my point exactly <even> so problem persists