Session Start: Tue Nov 04 23:54:07 1997 *** Now talking in #sentimental #sentimental created on Tue Nov 04 23:57:54 <even> you there!!! <uboy> yes, hello! <even> hi hi hi <even> finally <uboy> what's new? <uboy> yes, finally <even> well i am a little freaked about tomorrow <even> but otherwise <uboy> what is being done? <even> wondering about the middleground <even> getting 2 screws out at 8am <even> kind of should be in bed <uboy> yes, middleground <uboy> we'll make it quick for tonight <even> ok <uboy> so, how to get closer to the middle ground? <even> yes i am a little unsure how <uboy> something to think about as you going under anesthesia <even> indeed <uboy> don't expect answer tonight <even> maybe it will come to me as i look toward the light <even> i reckon page1 needs jigging <uboy> but i will work on some ideas after our chat <uboy> yes, don't go towards the light! <uboy> yes, page 1 <uboy> and <even> we may need java <even> or a jazzed interface <uboy> how would it help? <even> to imply the structure more <uboy> pop up windows, etc? <uboy> yes <even> just to eliminate the button thing and imply something else <uboy> yes, a little less rigid <uboy> or with less defined options <even> i will talk to a mate about it... but i guess our concept should be arrived at first <uboy> yes <uboy> i do want a different type of area in addition to the more "story space" one's we have now <uboy> but not sure what exactly <uboy> some way of laying down our ideas side by side <even> well once more links are in place it will be more interesting <even> the side by side should work better <uboy> that feels more loose <even> but we are putting all into the present and i dont know what is left for the middle <uboy> i like the game without rules analogy <even> other than a very abstract discourse at the center <uboy> or shift, non-competative rules <uboy> shifting <even> that seems to happen with the links between stories when they arrive <uboy> is the midddle not the present? <even> present what? <even> current status? <even> i dunno <uboy> or you mena we want to reserve the middle for the end <even> well it is the result of a journey however sideways <even> a certain linearity <uboy> i thought it was the journey itself <even> it could be concrete plans for the works for the show <even> something boring like that <even> to wrap the journey more around the stuff <uboy> sorry <even> ok <even> usually happens to me <uboy> i'm starting to hate aol <even> wonder why <even> so wrapping... <even> <uboy> i thought it was the journey itself <even> <even> it could be concrete plans for the works for the show <even> <even> something boring like that <even> <even> to wrap the journey more around the stuff <uboy> yes <uboy> hope you saved <even> i have it on auto <uboy> yes <even> options .. log files <uboy> auto save? <even> under file, options, logging, channels <even> we need to talk about so much really <uboy> ok, thanks <uboy> yes <uboy> a great deal to tackle <even> anyway the middle ground can mulch for a few days <uboy> true <even> liked your snaps... <uboy> thanks <uboy> i will send more detail explanations <even> please <even> then we can discuss... u have been productive <even> while i stare at a screen <uboy> you have also been productive! <even> well sort of... now i am confused as to what or where to go <uboy> the site is going and looks good <uboy> we'll iron out details <even> indeed but i need some support from a html geek <uboy> yes <uboy> that's why i think more story space linking may not help the process <even> i was feeling that too <even> all very predictable <uboy> just not sure how to move sideways <even> conceptual leaping would have us scrap the site and scribble instead <even> make a book!! <uboy> that is a leap <even> i dunno <uboy> but, i think the site is where it's at.... we just need the right spark <even> light me up <even> i will probe my Ucs <uboy> right <even> i really should go <even> sorry <uboy> ucs? <even> i cant really concentrate <even> unconsciousness <uboy> ok, goodnight and goodluck <uboy> tomorrow